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	<title>Comments on: Amazon vs. Macmillan, part 2</title>
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		<title>By: dieta para bajar de peso</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-109987</link>
		<dc:creator>dieta para bajar de peso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We stumbled over here coming from a different website and thought I may as well check things out. I like what I see so now i am following you. Look forward to checking out your web page for a second time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We stumbled over here coming from a different website and thought I may as well check things out. I like what I see so now i am following you. Look forward to checking out your web page for a second time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Kessler - Insert Witty Title Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Kessler - Insert Witty Title Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28088</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww thank you Jackie! I heart you, cause I heart anyone who says I&#039;m brilliant for any reason. :D

It&#039;s definitely interesting. There should be a reality TV show for this. I would be glued to my seat. I&#039;m fascinated by all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww thank you Jackie! I heart you, cause I heart anyone who says I&#8217;m brilliant for any reason. <img src='http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely interesting. There should be a reality TV show for this. I would be glued to my seat. I&#8217;m fascinated by all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: darchole</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28085</link>
		<dc:creator>darchole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that Amazon is playing games with future releases too - I&#039;ve noticed a lot that went from &#039;pre-order&#039; to &#039;sign up to be notified when this item becomes available&#039;. (For example Chaos Bites by Lori Handeland, 0312366035). But that book still appears on my wishlist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Amazon is playing games with future releases too &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed a lot that went from &#8216;pre-order&#8217; to &#8216;sign up to be notified when this item becomes available&#8217;. (For example Chaos Bites by Lori Handeland, 0312366035). But that book still appears on my wishlist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Amazon were a hot guy, there would be no hope for me.&quot; 

**dies laughing**

Zoe, for this alone, I say you are utterly brilliant.

I&#039;m very interested to see (1) whether Amazon will respond and (2) how other publishers will react. Publishers definitely have to figure out how to ride the e-wave, and they have to figure out a good way to allow e-readers to share/borrow e-content.

Interesting times, to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Amazon were a hot guy, there would be no hope for me.&#8221; </p>
<p>**dies laughing**</p>
<p>Zoe, for this alone, I say you are utterly brilliant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested to see (1) whether Amazon will respond and (2) how other publishers will react. Publishers definitely have to figure out how to ride the e-wave, and they have to figure out a good way to allow e-readers to share/borrow e-content.</p>
<p>Interesting times, to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28083</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah, speaking as a &quot;little guy&quot; (indie author is about as &quot;little guy&quot; as you can get in the publishing world) I benefit by being in Amazon and Amazon is not screwing me. Macmillan is not a little guy, they are not a wilting helpless flower. They can fight back if they dont&#039; like it. Readers aren&#039;t helpless either. They can take their money elsewhere if Amazon makes them mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah, speaking as a &#8220;little guy&#8221; (indie author is about as &#8220;little guy&#8221; as you can get in the publishing world) I benefit by being in Amazon and Amazon is not screwing me. Macmillan is not a little guy, they are not a wilting helpless flower. They can fight back if they dont&#8217; like it. Readers aren&#8217;t helpless either. They can take their money elsewhere if Amazon makes them mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28081</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing devil&#039;s advocate, it&#039;s possible that books being removed from wish lists was something that automatically happened when they did the other thing they did. It&#039;s also possible that they&#039;re evil. I&#039;m alternately attracted to Amazon&#039;s ruthlessness and repulsed by it. If Amazon were a hot guy, there would be no hope for me.

But I agree absolutely that Macmillan does not NEED Amazon. What they need to do if they don&#039;t like things is to set up their own Ebook store AND sell in other online venues. If they can get the other major publishers who are unhappy about this to go with them, Amazon will lose some of it&#039;s power.

Amazon has every right to sell or not sell whatever they want. They are not beholden to Macmillan. They also have the right to say &quot;This is what we&#039;re charging for products you want to put on OUR ereading device.&quot; Complaining about how it hurts readers and how it hurts authors is an attempt to guilt Amazon for doing business how they wish in a free market.

Publishers who don&#039;t like that can find another solution OUTSIDE OF Amazon. 

But by continuing to WANT to be in Amazon, and not leaving, just fighting Amazon&#039;s set policies for Kindle, they can&#039;t win. 

They&#039;re fighting the wrong battle on the wrong field. If they want to win they have to do something that will hurt Amazon, everybody pull out. But until they all rise up together and do this, nothing will improve for them.

Though honestly I don&#039;t hold out much hope for these publishers over the long haul anyway. They&#039;re fighting digital and the realities of digital just like the music industry did. It&#039;s like they&#039;ve got blinders on and can&#039;t even see what they&#039;re doing now is a re-run for those of us at home who watched this already with music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing devil&#8217;s advocate, it&#8217;s possible that books being removed from wish lists was something that automatically happened when they did the other thing they did. It&#8217;s also possible that they&#8217;re evil. I&#8217;m alternately attracted to Amazon&#8217;s ruthlessness and repulsed by it. If Amazon were a hot guy, there would be no hope for me.</p>
<p>But I agree absolutely that Macmillan does not NEED Amazon. What they need to do if they don&#8217;t like things is to set up their own Ebook store AND sell in other online venues. If they can get the other major publishers who are unhappy about this to go with them, Amazon will lose some of it&#8217;s power.</p>
<p>Amazon has every right to sell or not sell whatever they want. They are not beholden to Macmillan. They also have the right to say &#8220;This is what we&#8217;re charging for products you want to put on OUR ereading device.&#8221; Complaining about how it hurts readers and how it hurts authors is an attempt to guilt Amazon for doing business how they wish in a free market.</p>
<p>Publishers who don&#8217;t like that can find another solution OUTSIDE OF Amazon. </p>
<p>But by continuing to WANT to be in Amazon, and not leaving, just fighting Amazon&#8217;s set policies for Kindle, they can&#8217;t win. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re fighting the wrong battle on the wrong field. If they want to win they have to do something that will hurt Amazon, everybody pull out. But until they all rise up together and do this, nothing will improve for them.</p>
<p>Though honestly I don&#8217;t hold out much hope for these publishers over the long haul anyway. They&#8217;re fighting digital and the realities of digital just like the music industry did. It&#8217;s like they&#8217;ve got blinders on and can&#8217;t even see what they&#8217;re doing now is a re-run for those of us at home who watched this already with music.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28074</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domynoe, I&#039;ve added another link, this one to the SWFA blog that&#039;s mirroring the post. Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domynoe, I&#8217;ve added another link, this one to the SWFA blog that&#8217;s mirroring the post. Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: L&#8217;esprit d&#8217;escalier &#187; Amazonfail, Redux</title>
		<link>http://www.jackiekessler.com/blog/2010/01/31/amazon-vs-macmillan-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28072</link>
		<dc:creator>L&#8217;esprit d&#8217;escalier &#187; Amazonfail, Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jackie Kessler has a great analysis of the situation at &#8220;Amazon vs. Macmillan, part 2.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jackie Kessler has a great analysis of the situation at &#8220;Amazon vs. Macmillan, part 2.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: domynoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>domynoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobias&#039;s website comes up with a suspended page.

I&#039;ve been on the fence about dealing with Amazon for a bit now and the only thing that has kept me going back is that it&#039;s been easyâ€”my wishlist is already there, my friends&#039; wishlists are already there.  But now I&#039;m ready to move on to another seller, especially for books.  It&#039;s ridiculous the way Amazon makes decisions for consumers instead of allowing consumers to make their own decisions.  The reasons for such behavior hardly matters to me.  The fact that it happens again and again does.  And that it affects the writers&#039; incomes is even more irritating.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been on the fence about dealing with Amazon for a bit now and the only thing that has kept me going back is that it&#8217;s been easyâ€”my wishlist is already there, my friends&#8217; wishlists are already there.  But now I&#8217;m ready to move on to another seller, especially for books.  It&#8217;s ridiculous the way Amazon makes decisions for consumers instead of allowing consumers to make their own decisions.  The reasons for such behavior hardly matters to me.  The fact that it happens again and again does.  And that it affects the writers&#8217; incomes is even more irritating.</p>
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